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Voting in NI

I was just watching the competition streamed from Irish television, for choosing Ireland's 2011 Eurovision entry. (It'll probably be another hour until voting's done.)

The most interesting thing about the songs recap was that it included instructions on how people in Northern Ireland could vote. That's a different country. Surely, they should be voting for the UK's entry, not Ireland's. Do they get to double-vote there?

P.S. Strongest entry won, squeaking victory by a smidgen over the other strongest entry: Jedward will be in the Eurovision semi-finals.

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owlfish
Feb. 11th, 2011 11:26 pm (UTC)
Also, I suspect the rules on how to choose the entry are far more lax than the rules on voting in the Eurovision semi-finals and finals - so the rules may vary that way too.

Edited: No, you're right the first time as you thought. NI votes with Ireland for the finals too.

Edited at 2011-02-11 11:30 pm (UTC)
clanwilliam
Feb. 12th, 2011 01:33 am (UTC)
Hang on, where are you getting this from? Just because RTE lets NI (and, by default the rest of the UK) vote in the Irish song contest, does not mean that NI votes as part of Ireland.

There may be history whereby NI also gets to vote in the Irish choice (and public choice is comparatively recent in Eurovision), but I cannot see how NI could possibly be excluded from the UK vote in turn. NI has the BBC as the state broadcaster, but Ireland (*not* Eire, unless we're having this conversation as Gaelige) has RTE as its state broadcaster.

RTE broadcasts reach NI. BBC Ulster broadcasts reach as far south as Wicklow on the old bandwidth, while BBC Wales reaches Wexford and Wicklow.

Even for something as comparatively unimportant as Eurovision, there would have been riots if it had been suggested that the majority of people in Northern Ireland were being excluded from the country they identified as theirs by the EBU.
owlfish
Feb. 12th, 2011 08:19 am (UTC)
Behold: why this was baffling me last night. It's still possible that NI gets two votes in Eurovision; that would also explain it.

Firstly: sbisson, above, wrote that NI is part of Ireland for European Broadcast Association purposes. (Although that did - and still - leaves me wondering about the BBC!)

Then, when I searched superficially online, I found a Wikipedia article or two telling me that NI votes with Ireland in Eurovision, or at least, has done so in specific recent years. (Obviously, this is in no way a conclusive source, but it was backing sbisson up.) Also, having a cluster of people from a given place doesn't mean a thing in terms of Eurovision representation, but there were three acts from NI competing for the Irish nomination two years ago.

Edited to add: None of this is at all definitive of course, and it could be that the article is wrong, and it's always true that the nomination vote in no way needs to map onto the rules for the "real" voting of Eurovision.

Edited at 2011-02-12 08:31 am (UTC)