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Poll #2: Counting worlds

Which of the following statements is most true for you? (Note: Europe *includes* the British Isles for the sake of this poll.)

I am from Europe & "First World" IS synonymous with "Old World"
2(2.2%)
I am from Europe & "First World" is NOT synonymous with "Old World"
54(60.7%)
I am NOT from Europe & "First World" IS synonymous with "Old World"
0(0.0%)
I am NOT from Europe & "First World" is NOT synonymous with "Old World"
33(37.1%)


Feel free to say you're from Europe if you feel living there for a while/being raised by at least one European relative had a major effect on your relevant use of language.

Apropos of a couple comments by la_marquise_de_ on jimhines's lj.
The lazy use of 'First World' throws everything on Europe. You guys over that side of the Atlantic are the New World. And while I know that many people forget this -- and the whole world counting thing is deeply, deeply flawed and patronising and I dislike it hugely -- every once in a while I get British about it and find myself muttering 'Own your own issues, don't just blame us over here' at USians on the internets.

and
But to Europeans, it looks like us, rather than you, because here, you're the New World (2nd World), we're the Old or First World.

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tsutanai
Jul. 21st, 2011 02:25 pm (UTC)
Of course, being from Northern America, I'm not about to say we're not first world countries.

But also the converse: usage of "old world" in American context seems to include places like Albania (being the place a lot of people come from 'round here), and I leave it up to The Audience to determine whether the eastern European countries count as First World.

(What I learned when the Cold War was still raging was that the Soviet-Bloc countries were Second World, which is why we mostly talk First and Third.)