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Poll #2: Counting worlds

Which of the following statements is most true for you? (Note: Europe *includes* the British Isles for the sake of this poll.)

I am from Europe & "First World" IS synonymous with "Old World"
I am from Europe & "First World" is NOT synonymous with "Old World"
I am NOT from Europe & "First World" IS synonymous with "Old World"
I am NOT from Europe & "First World" is NOT synonymous with "Old World"

Feel free to say you're from Europe if you feel living there for a while/being raised by at least one European relative had a major effect on your relevant use of language.

Apropos of a couple comments by la_marquise_de_ on jimhines's lj.
The lazy use of 'First World' throws everything on Europe. You guys over that side of the Atlantic are the New World. And while I know that many people forget this -- and the whole world counting thing is deeply, deeply flawed and patronising and I dislike it hugely -- every once in a while I get British about it and find myself muttering 'Own your own issues, don't just blame us over here' at USians on the internets.

But to Europeans, it looks like us, rather than you, because here, you're the New World (2nd World), we're the Old or First World.



Jul. 23rd, 2011 08:37 pm (UTC)
I confess I wasn't sure which box (of two - I am from Europe, or an island off Europe) to tick, but clearly these terms are all ideologically loaded, and I'd try to avoid using any of them: old/new clearly Eurocentric (with larges swathes of Asia presumably Old World) and First/Second/Third (I wasn't clear where second was, tjought it was a bit like British Rail) offers a hierarchy that developed and developing and subsistence doesn't do much to dispel.

Rich north, poor south. Conveniently moving most of Australia and New Zealand.