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The Full English

I've been staying in hotels for the past four days and eating way too much. Amongst the eating-too-much is the daily Full English Breakfast. Comparing and contrasting FEB menus led us to ponder regional differences among what is "required" of a FEB. I can't survey regional differences easily, but I can survey preferences generally. (Obviously, Full Irish, Full Scottish, Full Welsh etc. Breakfasts would require a differet poll.) So, in the name of research...

(Forgive me the typo! That should be "fruit compôte", of course.)

Poll #901779 The Full English Breakfast

What ingredients are necessary to a Full English Breakfast?

Egg(s)
0(0.0%)
Bacon
0(0.0%)
Sausage(s)
0(0.0%)
Black Pudding (or other blood puddings)
0(0.0%)
Hogs Pudding
0(0.0%)
Fried Potatoes
0(0.0%)
Bubble and Squeak
0(0.0%)
Fried Mushrooms
0(0.0%)
Cooked Tomatoes
0(0.0%)
Baked Beans
0(0.0%)
Fried Bread
0(0.0%)
French Toast
0(0.0%)
Toast (White, Brown, and/or granary)
0(0.0%)
Tea
0(0.0%)
Coffee
0(0.0%)
Hot Chocolate/Cocoa
0(0.0%)
Orange Juice
0(0.0%)
Apple Juice
0(0.0%)
Other, to be listed in comments
0(0.0%)

What ingredients are ideal in a Full English Breakfast?

Egg(s)
0(0.0%)
Bacon
0(0.0%)
Sausage(s)
0(0.0%)
Black Pudding (or other blood puddings)
0(0.0%)
Hogs Pudding
0(0.0%)
Fried Potatoes
0(0.0%)
Bubble and Squeak
0(0.0%)
Fried Mushrooms
0(0.0%)
Cooked Tomatoes
0(0.0%)
Baked Beans
0(0.0%)
Fried Bread
0(0.0%)
French Toast
0(0.0%)
Toast (White, Brown, and/or granary)
0(0.0%)
Tea
0(0.0%)
Coffee
0(0.0%)
Hot Chocolate/Cocoa
0(0.0%)
Orange Juice
0(0.0%)
Apple Juice
0(0.0%)
Other, to be listed in comments
0(0.0%)

Does a Full English Breakfast require multiple courses (i.e. a starter of cereal/porridge/fruit compost/fruit salad/kippers/etc.?

Yes
7(16.7%)
No
35(83.3%)

Comments

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rjw1
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
baked beans are allowed but ive personally stopped having them and replacing them with grilled tomatoes instead.

as the above would suggest i prefer grilled tomatoes over tinned
owlfish
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
In season, grilled tomatoes are good. The rest of the year, I much prefer tinned, even if that seems so much less classy. Baked beans, however, I am prejudiced against. I don't like them on toast, I don't feel they belong with breakfast. They are a fine dish in their own right - but preferably later in the day.
hobbitblue
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:24 pm (UTC)
whats hogs pudding?
owlfish
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:37 pm (UTC)
It's a sausage made from meat and groats. The groats make it white. It had an unexpectedly smooth texture. I'd never heard of it either until these past few days in the West Country.
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chickenfeet2003
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:42 pm (UTC)
I have answered for "eggs, bacon and other stuff". This can be replaced by other appropriate dishes/combinations eg kippers or smoked haddock with a poached egg without loss of FEB status. Similarly coffee could replaced by tea. One notes also that in the Merchant Marine a proper breakfast should include both curry and cod's roes.
celandineb
Jan. 6th, 2007 11:54 pm (UTC)
I agree with chickenfeet that kippers/haddock/similar could replace bacon/sausage. And I agree with you that tinned tomatoes are preferable most of the year, as being more flavorful than out-of-season fresh tomatoes. *g*
owlfish
Jan. 7th, 2007 12:10 am (UTC)
My knowledge of FEBs comes primarily from B&B and hotel breakfasts, which limits my perspective on the subject. Kippers/haddock/etc., on the menus I've seen, has always been offered either instead of a FEB or as a first course, so I hadn't realized how versatile a role fish could play.
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oursin
Jan. 7th, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
Wot no croissants? The last time I had an on-train FEB (these can be surprisingly wonderful) there were croissants and toast, choice of fruit compote, grapefruit segments, porridge or cereal. And there should be marmalade, definitely. Ginger conserve is acceptable, but not essential.

Also, my pick of juice would be grapefruit.
owlfish
Jan. 7th, 2007 12:14 am (UTC)
Oooh! Can I really count croissants? I would love to! I always do opt for croissants whenever possible, but then again, I also rarely have the appetite for a full FEB in the morning, especially if I've already had one that week.

I did dilemma over whether or not to include condiments in this poll: I thought it might get out of hand, with milk vs. cream for the tea or coffee, the option of whipped cream on the hot chocolate, ketchup and brown sauce, and all the possible categories of conserves.

I'm sorry for overlooking grapefuit. It wasn't on the menu this morning or last to prompt me.
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pfy
Jan. 7th, 2007 12:17 am (UTC)
I hadn't heard of hogs pudding, but it appears to be a variety of white pudding (which I've never tried either).

Hash browns seem to have been relatively recently adopted by some establishments as part of their fried breakfasts. I enjoy and appreciate them, but place them at a lower priority than tomatoes and fried bread (yes, I prioritise the components, determined by availability of ingredients, hungriness, can-I-be-botheredness, and space in frying pan).
chickenfeet2003
Jan. 7th, 2007 12:22 am (UTC)
Fried potatoes (though not hash browns) were part of the late lamented BR Intercity breakfast so they were definitely part of the English b/f scene at least 20 years ago.
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gillo
Jan. 7th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
A cereals course is definitely required, even if it is skipped by many people. Kippers or other smoked fish ought to be an option too.

Baked beans are common, though I don't think you'd find them in the best hotels. Eggs, bacon and suasages are the irreducible minimum. Plus toast and marmalade - you get that even in British Home Stores caff!
owlfish
Jan. 7th, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
The problem with baked beans is that they must be of the tinned variety. It's no good to have a nice batch of homemade baked beans with a FEB; they're going to be the wrong variety. And most places with pretensions avoid the tinned.
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purpletigron
Jan. 7th, 2007 09:44 am (UTC)
Hmm! Now you've got me thinking about how to make the perfect vegan Organic local seasonal Fairtrade breakfast! :-)

I should at least try making Fronch Toast from Vegan with a Vengeance to address this urge...
owlfish
Jan. 7th, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
And how would you? I'd love to know what strikes you as necessary for inclusion and substition and still count.
purplecthulhu
Jan. 7th, 2007 09:49 am (UTC)
I would also vote for a kedgeree option, but this might be straying too far into the Full Scottish Breakfast.

The best FSB I've had was in 1983 at a country house hotel on its own island in Scotland, and the kedgeree was wonderful!
purpletigron
Jan. 7th, 2007 09:51 am (UTC)
Kedgeree is Anglo-Indian - apparently (wiki) "The name is derived from an Indian dish (kichidi in Hindi) made from rice, lentils, onions and spices."
alysonwonderlan
Jan. 7th, 2007 07:58 pm (UTC)
I have to say that my answers are purely from memory and may be a bit bastardized by what Americans believe is in an English breakfast after 9 years out of the country! I am sure, however, that as much as I hate baked beans on toast, it was always featured in full English breakfasts.
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