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Poll #941718 Atlantic geography

When you see the word "mid-Atlantic", which of the following comes to mind first?

New Jersey/Delaware/Maryland
28(33.3%)
The middle of the Atlantic Ocean/an accent midway between American and English
56(66.7%)

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cynicaloptimist
Mar. 7th, 2007 12:33 pm (UTC)
The first answer would never even have occurred to me, not I supect the vast majority of non-USians
purpletigron
Mar. 7th, 2007 12:44 pm (UTC)
Indeed. It took me several beats to reverse-engineer it.
(no subject) - owlfish - Mar. 7th, 2007 01:00 pm (UTC) - Expand
marzapane
Mar. 7th, 2007 12:51 pm (UTC)
The Mid-Atlantic states are actually Delaware, DC, Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia (at least according to my AAA guide)
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:01 pm (UTC)
West Virginia? But it's not on the ocean!

Still, thank you for the clarification. I wonder if anyone from New Jersey thinks they live in a mid-Atlantic state or not?
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lemur_catta
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:31 pm (UTC)
I thought of somewhere in the middle of the ocean forst even though I think I've heard the term midatlantic states but, the accent I'd think of as 'transatlantic'
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:35 pm (UTC)
What a lovely answer! And absolutely appropriate. I wonder if your thoughts on the subject are representatively Canadian or not? I'd rather like them to be, whether or not they are.

References to a "midatlantic accent" confuse me endlessly since I am never quite sure where the speaker means.
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targaff
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:39 pm (UTC)
Why are the second two options lumped together?
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:44 pm (UTC)
In retrospect, I wish I hadn't, but it's too late now. If I were to redo the poll, I'd either ask about geography or about accents, but not lump them together in one ungainly set of choices.
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momiji
Mar. 7th, 2007 01:59 pm (UTC)
I hear the term all the time, but I always think of choice B. Probably because I am right next to NJ.
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
So: is NJ a midatlantic state or not?
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owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 02:05 pm (UTC)
I always have to double-check what the speaker means by "midatlantic" - it's far too confusing otherwise. Of course, it remains confusing if, say, I'm just one of many audience members in a large auditorium.

Perhaps the Pacific doesn't have a seaboard but some other technical seaside term. Like the difference between a hurricane and a typhoon.
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owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:12 pm (UTC)
Yes! Or would that be a north Atlantic accent? Looking at the map, The islands of São Paolo or Ascension look the most overall centrally located. Cape Verge Islands are very N-S central, but rather too close to the African coast to count overall, I'd think.
mithent
Mar. 7th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
I'd think of an area in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, largely devoid of humans except those passing through. No accents come to mind.
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:09 pm (UTC)
Bermuda?
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a_d_medievalist
Mar. 7th, 2007 05:29 pm (UTC)
Well, those of us from the Left Coast call it the Pacific Coast. If you'd said mid-Atlantic accent I'd have known what you meant immediately, but since I live in a mid-Atlantic state, that's what came to mind first.
owlfish
Mar. 7th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
There aren't enough states on the W coast to have midpacific states.
gillo
Mar. 7th, 2007 08:52 pm (UTC)
The first meaning would never have occurred to me. My guess is that the responses will break down to a considerable extent by nationality.
intertext
Mar. 7th, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of the first answer. I think it must be extremely regional or US-nal.
Or it's like us out here in BC who refer to Ontario as "Eastern Canada," when it's really "Central Canada" and think it's strange when people refer to Alberta as the West. No - we're the West.
littleowl
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:33 pm (UTC)
Huh. Interesting. I include Pennsylvania, New York and D.C. in the Mid-Atlantic region personally.

Here are my entirely anecdotal and personal regional definitions for the East Coast:

New England is: Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut

Mid-Atlantic is: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and D.C.

South is everything south of Virginia, except Florida. Florida is Florida.

I know. It doesn't really make sense.
I'm also never quite sure what to do with Ohio, West Virginia and Kentucky. They don't quite read as "mid-West" but they're not East Coast and not quite South either.

Anyway.

The middle of the Atlantic Ocean is ... the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, or mid-Atlantic used in a sentence that contextualizes the former as such. But Mid-Atlantic is always that random conglomeration of states between New England and the South.
littleowl
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:45 pm (UTC)
Oh and the reason I say that the South starts in Virginia is because that's when it feels like the South, though really, you could include Northern Virginia near D.C. in "Mid-Atlantic" because the shift doesn't really happen until you drive through Richmond going south or out towards the Shenandoah valley.

And this is all highly subjective based on the "feel" of driving through and stopping places on more than one road-trip to Georgia during the late 90s.

Missouri is also confusing, by the by. When we drove from Oklahoma to D.C. crossing Missouri and through St. Louis was funky. Oklahoma felt like The West, but Missouri neither felt "Southern" the way Georgia does, nor mid-Western like Illinois and Indiana did.

Anyway that's sort of out of scope :) My co-worker from Indiana points out that the term Mid-West probably originates from the time when the West, was everything west of the Mississippi. Wikipedia defines it to include from Missouri up through North Dakota.

But yeah. Out of scope. And I think that Mid-Atlantic is definitely only meaningful to folks who grew up on in the US and perhaps only particularly to East Coasters.
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sioneva
Mar. 8th, 2007 10:41 am (UTC)
Hiya hon - don't know if you are considering applying for naturalisation, but we've had a bit of a shock here - the Home Office is proposing fee increases to naturalisation applications from £268 to £575. I'm scrambling now to get the test taken and the application in before 1 April, when the fees would come into effect if they pass (which they probably will).

Just thought I'd let you know!
owlfish
Mar. 8th, 2007 11:32 am (UTC)
I'm not eligible for another 3.5 years! Thank you for letting me know.
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keira_online
Mar. 25th, 2007 07:44 pm (UTC)
MidAtlantic...middle of the Atlantic Ocean. UBoats, Convoys, topedos, and other WWII stuff come to mind.
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