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C. has a question for you:

Can God time travel?




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Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:04 pm (UTC)
He can, but he doesn't need to, since he's omnipresent and omniscient, meaning that every point in time already has a God who knows everything that any time-travelling God might know.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:22 pm (UTC)
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Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
considering God is supposed to be omniscient, s/he'd kindof *need* time travel - like Santa - to be everywhere at once all of the time.

or possibly a few departments-worth of minions.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC)
NORAD tells me that Santa goes everywhere sequentially. ;)
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
Isn't there a "this question gives me a headache" option to check? :)
Jan. 23rd, 2009 10:39 pm (UTC)
Amen to that.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:10 pm (UTC)
Seeing as God exists outside of time, one presumes asking if He can participate in it is beside the point.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 10:51 pm (UTC)
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:13 pm (UTC)
Only Yog-Sothoth knows the answer...
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC)
No, on account of not existing.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:36 pm (UTC)
Part of the conversation leading to this post involved speculating on what God's character sheet would look like. (That and he likes LJ poll answers better than any answers I can give him on subjects like these.)
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Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
The question has some elements in common with "Can I travel along my own circulatory system?"
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
Nice analogy!
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Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)
Aren't there a lot of places in the Bible where God apologizes for something (Noah's flood?) or where the Israelites go and do something stupid and it takes God decades to respond? It seems like these things would imply God can't just go back in time and fix them before they become a problem. Unless he already did, and that was the best time to fix it.

Never mind. I change my answer from "no" to "the answer is unknown and unknowable".
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:56 pm (UTC)
I'm impressed by your use of evidence here. Thank you.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
Haven't you seen the buses? There is probably no God.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 09:55 pm (UTC)
No, no. "There is probably not a God." There may be none, there may be two, there may be thousands. It only suggests - and even then is rather uncertain - that there is not only one of him/her/it.

Edited at 2009-01-23 09:56 pm (UTC)
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Jan. 23rd, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
By definition, any god who exists is omnipresent in all conceivable dimensions, of which time is one, so yes, He can. Or the nearest thing to it.
Jan. 23rd, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
IIRC, Einstein suggested that time travel would only be possible (in this universe) if one set off from Earth at a significant fraction of C, so that one would travel relativistically slower and thus be able to return to Earth, not before one had left, but having aged less than those left behind.

So we must all hope that this god person is still speeding away from the Earth, getting ever closer to the Great Chinese Walls which mark the edge of the visible universe, fifteen billion light years away, and that his oxygen will run out long before hesheorit starts to loop back towards us.
Jan. 24th, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
*shrugs* Since there is no god, there is nothing TO be traveling in time.

Edited at 2009-01-24 12:32 am (UTC)
Jan. 24th, 2009 08:01 am (UTC)
It occurs to me that if God was outside of time then he/she would already know what people would do in response to certain actions and wouldn't get so sad or angry about it.
On the other hand, it may just be that the people who wrote the bible were struggling to explain it from a human perspective in which case a lot of that didn't really happen that way anyway.

I'm always reminded at this point of an analogy made by Philip K Dick. He was describing beings that occasionally popped into existence in our reality by comparing it to the experience of a 2D being who encounters one of us putting our finger on its plane of existance. The 2D being only perceives the 2D impression made by the end of the finger and is unable to draw enough information from its own perceptive abilities to accurately describe what is really going on.
Jan. 24th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC)
My more-religious-than-the-rest-of-us brother has spoken of his interpretation of parts of the Bible like this, too. He uses the part where God is making Adam as an example: the Bible tries to explain how God did it, but if you're God trying to explain to ancient man - "So first I had to assemble some proteins out of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, y'know, and then I've got to sequence the DNA, and your cytoplasm's got to be sort of a saline solution, and..." and ancient man probably says something like, "What?" And God's like, "Yeah, ok, sorry. I made you out of mud. Just think of it as mud."

It's probably hard to interpret with modern knowledge what God's actually capable of when all our data comes from a much older account. If it didn't occur to them that time travel might even be possible, any evidence for it from their stories would have to be picked up from bits and pieces scattered throughout.
Jan. 24th, 2009 08:10 am (UTC)
The ability to do something has a necessary prerequisite of existence, so no.
Jan. 24th, 2009 04:23 pm (UTC)
*laughs at how well people can reiterate Augustine*

Assuming that God exists, and is the one of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam ... he doesn't need to, because he is outside time and omnipresent.

It's an interesting twist on the question of predestination, though.
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